
Curator 135
Curator 135 is a Podcast that explores true crime, mysteries, odd history, mythology, media, and traditions. His favorite age is vint'age'. Dive into events and stories not always covered in school and online as well as the characters within those stories. Your host, Nathan Olli, is a former radio personality, aspiring author, event DJ, and works in a library at a K-8 STEAM School.
Curator 135
It's the Great Depression, Charlie Brown
Find out what Halloween was like during the Great Depression. 1929 to 1939 was a tough decade for folks throughout the United States. Halloween offered a chance to come together and help children have an enjoyable evening with their friends. It also served as a time for older kids to rebel and cut loose, causing the night before Halloween to be named 'Mischief Night', and eventually 'Devil's Night'.
So how did people celebrate and what legends spawned from that era that are still discussed today?
The Great Depression (1929-1939) deeply affected everyday life in America, shaping how people navigated both daily survival and special occasions, including holidays like Halloween. With widespread poverty, families faced severe financial constraints as unemployment soared and businesses closed. People had to become incredibly resourceful, repurposing old materials, making their own clothing, and growing food to stretch limited resources. In rural areas, farmers struggled with plummeting crop prices, while urban dwellers often found themselves in breadlines or soup kitchens. This environment of hardship influenced not only the way people lived but also how they celebrated holidays.
Halloween, which had been gaining popularity before the Depression, became an opportunity for families to find joy amidst tough times. Without money for store-bought costumes or decorations, people made do by crafting their own costumes from whatever materials they had—old sheets transformed into ghost costumes, and worn-out clothes were repurposed into creative disguises. Similarly, the treats handed out to children weren’t store-bought candy but homemade offerings like popcorn balls, caramel apples, and cookies, reflecting the DIY spirit of the era.
However, the economic struggles also led to a mischievous twist on Halloween traditions. While trick-or-treating grew in popularity, the "trick" part of the custom often took precedence when treats were scarce. Frustrated children sometimes played pranks on neighbors, tipping outhouses or soaping windows if they didn’t receive treats. These pranks, though light-hearted for the most part, occasionally escalated into vandalism, particularly in rural areas where farmers were targeted.
To curb such mischief, many communities organized neighborhood events, such as costume parades, bonfires, and parties. These gatherings provided a safe, communal way to celebrate and helped foster a sense of togetherness in a time of great difficulty. In some places, Halloween became known as "Beggars' Night," where children asked for treats, a reflection of the widespread poverty. Despite the challenges, these celebrations allowed families to come together, share what they had, and keep spirits high.
In a time marked by hardship, Halloween offered both an escape from daily struggles and a way to nurture community spirit. The spooky stories and ghostly tales that emerged during the Depression also reflected people’s desire for escapism. Amidst the uncertainty of the era, supernatural legends provided excitement, offering temporary relief from the harsh realities of the day-to-day. The creativity and resilience that characterized Halloween during the Great Depression left a lasting imprint on the holiday, shaping how it is celebrated today with its emphasis on homemade costumes, community gatherings, and the thrill of the supernatural.
The mood during the Great Depression was one of uncertainty, tension, and a persistent, quiet desperation. With families losing their homes and jobs, the air was thick with a sense of struggle that seeped into daily life. Towns were filled with shuttered businesses and barren fields, while city streets saw long lines of people waiting for food at soup kitchens. Even as the country faced this collective hardship, there was a haunting resilience that lingered in the shadows. People clung to traditions, perhaps more fiercely than before, as a way to keep a semblance of normalcy in a world that felt turned upside down.
Halloween, in particular, took on a dark and eerie tone. Homemade costumes, often simple and tattered, gave children ghostly appearances, as if the holiday mirrored the ghost of a once-prosperous nation. Jack-o'-lanterns flickered in windows, not just as symbols of mischief but as faint beacons of hope and perseverance in a world that seemed dimmed. The pranks that grew in popularity during this time, like tipping over outhouses or soaping windows, carried a deeper sense of frustration and defiance. And yet, amidst the gloom, families still gathered around for Halloween festivities — organizing small community parties, crafting spooky decorations, and telling ghost stories, all in a defiant stand against the bleakness that surrounded them. Even in the darkest times, the human spirit found ways to celebrate, if only for a night.
Welcome to the Curator135 Podcast. My name is Nathan Olli and this is Episode 75 - It’s the Great Depression, Charlie Brown
One chilling urban legend that emerged during the Great Depression is the tale of The Phantom Hitchhiker, a ghostly figure that was often said to appear on dark, lonely roads around Halloween. As the story goes, travelers would be driving along isolated country roads when they’d spot a young woman standing by the side of the road, dressed in tattered, old-fashioned clothes. Sympathetic to her seemingly lost and weary appearance, drivers would stop to offer her a ride. She would silently climb into the back seat, giving only vague directions about where she was heading. As the car neared the destination, typically a cemetery or an old, run-down house, the driver would glance in the rearview mirror—only to discover the girl had vanished without a trace. This mysterious figure was said to be the ghost of a woman who had died tragically in a car accident, forever doomed to wander the roads in search of a ride home that she would never reach. The story played into the eerie mood of the time, reflecting the sense of loss and uncertainty that haunted so many people’s lives during the Depression.
During the Great Depression, store-bought Halloween costumes were a luxury most families couldn’t afford, so homemade costumes became the norm. Resourceful parents and children used whatever materials they had on hand to create their disguises. Old sheets were repurposed into simple ghost costumes, burlap sacks were fashioned into scarecrow outfits, and worn-out clothes could be transformed into hobo or farmer costumes—reflecting the working-class struggles of the time. Paper bags, cardboard, and fabric scraps were often used to make masks or hats, while soot or flour could be applied as makeup for eerie effects. Themes were simple and practical, with costumes often resembling characters from folklore, like witches, animals, or clowns. Though basic, these homemade costumes embodied the creativity and resilience of the era, as families found ways to celebrate despite the hardships they faced.
Trick-or-treating as we know it today was still evolving during the Great Depression, but the holiday began to take on a unique character in this era, often referred to as "Beggars' Night" in some communities. With widespread poverty, children would go door-to-door on Halloween asking for treats, but the mood was often more mischievous than celebratory. If homeowners didn’t offer a treat—usually homemade goodies like popcorn balls, fruit, or small sweets—children might retaliate with pranks. These tricks ranged from soaping windows to tipping over outhouses or removing gates from fences. The mischief stemmed from a combination of youthful energy and the frustrations of hard times. As pranks became more destructive, many towns organized community events like costume parades and Halloween parties to keep kids entertained and out of trouble, helping to transform the holiday into a safer, more family-friendly tradition. This era marked a shift from Halloween as a night of tricks to one focused on community and treats, laying the foundation for the modern trick-or-treat tradition we see today.
Community events became central to Halloween celebrations as a way to bring people together and provide a safe, structured outlet for children’s energy. With the rise of pranks and mischief on Halloween night—sometimes resulting in real property damage—towns began organizing parades, costume contests, and bonfires to redirect the chaos. These events fostered a sense of togetherness during a time of economic hardship, giving families a reason to gather, celebrate, and support one another. At these community celebrations, candy and treats were scarce. The financial strain of the Depression meant that store-bought candies were a rarity, so families often made their own. Popcorn balls, caramel apples, and homemade cookies were typical treats, reflecting both the scarcity and the creativity of the era. These community events helped shift Halloween from a night of mischief to a more family-friendly celebration, all while maintaining the spirit of fun despite the tough times.
Candy was scarce during the Great Depression because of the widespread financial hardships that affected nearly every household. With millions of people out of work and struggling to afford basic necessities, luxuries like store-bought candy became too expensive for most families. Many simply didn’t have the money to spend on non-essential items like sweets. Additionally, ingredients used to make candy—like sugar, chocolate, and other flavorings—were in short supply or too costly for manufacturers to produce in large quantities, leading to higher prices. As a result, families often relied on homemade treats, using ingredients they already had at home, such as popcorn, fruit, or molasses, to create simple but festive Halloween snacks like caramel apples and popcorn balls.
Another story that took root during the Great Depression, particularly in the Dust Bowl region, was the legend of the Ghosts in the Dust. As dust storms ravaged the Midwest, turning once-fertile farmland into barren wastelands, people began reporting strange, ghostly apparitions that appeared during these storms. Farmers claimed to see shadowy figures moving through the dust clouds, believed to be the restless spirits of those who had perished in the harsh conditions. Some even said they could hear faint voices carried on the wind, whispering warnings or calling out for help. These stories were often shared around Halloween, a time when the eerie atmosphere of desolate towns and farms seemed to blend with the supernatural. Whether these sightings were the result of desperation, hallucination, or a deeper fear, the Ghosts in the Dust became a haunting reminder of the hardships people faced during the Depression and the strange, unexplainable phenomena that seemed to follow.
Another spine-chilling tale that circulated during the Great Depression was the legend of the haunted Hoovervilles, the makeshift shantytowns that sprang up across America as people lost their homes. In one particularly infamous Hooverville outside of St. Louis, residents began reporting strange occurrences around Halloween time. Tents and shacks were said to shake violently in the middle of the night, even when there was no wind. People heard footsteps outside their homes, but when they looked out, no one was there. Some even claimed to see ghostly figures wandering the edges of the campfires—believed to be the spirits of those who had succumbed to illness or starvation while living in the harsh conditions of the shantytown. The fear of these haunted places spread quickly, especially around Halloween, when the darkness and isolation of the camps made it easy for ghost stories to take hold. The legend of the haunted Hoovervilles became a symbol of the despair and suffering of the time, with many wondering if the land itself had become cursed by the sorrow of the people living there.
Another legend from the 1930’s was that of the Ghost Train. The specter train was said to haunt the abandoned railroads that crisscrossed the country. As unemployment soared and thousands of men became "hobos," riding the rails in search of work, stories of mysterious train sightings began to circulate—particularly around Halloween. According to the legend, in the dead of night, people near old railway lines would hear the distant sound of a train whistle, followed by the clatter of wheels on the tracks. But when they rushed to the station or looked out at the rails, no train would appear. Some claimed to see a spectral train rolling through the night, its windows glowing faintly with an otherworldly light, while others reported seeing shadowy figures inside—believed to be the spirits of men who had died during their desperate journeys for work.
One popular version of the tale spoke of a specific train, doomed to wander the rails forever, carrying the souls of those who lost their lives on the tracks, either through accidents or starvation while traveling from town to town. These men, often with nowhere else to go, were said to be trapped between worlds, eternally seeking a destination they would never reach. The Ghost Train became a powerful symbol of the loss and hopelessness that marked the Depression, with its eerie presence offering a chilling reminder of the transient lives of the hobos and the dangers of life on the rails. The legend spread rapidly in communities along the train lines, and by Halloween, these ghost stories were shared around campfires, adding to the air of mystery and fear during the darkest days of the era.
The story of the "Empty Faces" of Southern Appalachia is a haunting tale rooted in the folklore and cultural history of the region. According to local legends, these mysterious figures are said to appear in the mountains, often described as gaunt, hollow-eyed specters with smooth, featureless faces. They are often encountered by unsuspecting travelers or locals wandering through the dense woods or abandoned places, evoking feelings of unease and dread.
The origins of the Empty Faces legend can be traced back to the isolation and hardships faced by communities in Appalachia, particularly during times of economic struggle, such as the Great Depression. Families often lived in extreme poverty, and the mountains themselves became a backdrop for tales of loss and despair. The Empty Faces are sometimes interpreted as the spirits of those who suffered and perished in these harsh conditions, eternally wandering the land, lost and searching for something they can never reclaim.
Sightings of the Empty Faces often occur in desolate areas, such as abandoned cabins or remote hiking trails, where the shadows of the past seem to linger. Witnesses describe feeling an overwhelming sense of sorrow and abandonment when they encounter these figures, as if the air itself is thick with the weight of forgotten stories and untold grief. Some tales suggest that these spectral beings may appear when someone is lost or in emotional turmoil, offering a sense of companionship in their ghostly silence.
The Empty Faces legend reflects the deeper cultural themes of Appalachia, where storytelling serves as a means to process collective trauma and grief. The stories passed down through generations not only serve as cautionary tales but also capture the essence of resilience in the face of adversity. In the eerie silence of the mountains, the Empty Faces remain a poignant reminder of the struggles faced by the people of Southern Appalachia and the spirits that linger in their memory.
As the story goes, if you ever find yourself wandering in those woods and feel a chill creeping up your spine, it may be the Empty Faces watching, reminding us of the past and the stories that continue to shape the present.
During the Great Depression, neighborhood collaboration played a crucial role in shaping Halloween celebrations, as communities banded together to provide safe, low-cost fun for children. With many families unable to afford elaborate festivities, neighbors would pool their resources, working together to organize small, communal events. One popular tradition that emerged was the decoration of basements or other communal spaces, transforming them into makeshift "haunted houses" to keep kids entertained and out of trouble. These basements would be filled with simple, spooky decorations like dim lighting, homemade ghost figures, and eerie sound effects created with household items. The goal was to offer a thrilling experience that didn’t cost much, while keeping children engaged in a safe environment. These collaborative efforts not only gave kids an outlet for fun during difficult times, but they also laid the foundation for modern haunted houses. What began as a way to entertain and distract children during Halloween evolved into the elaborate haunted attractions we see today, where fear and fun come together to create lasting memories.
Halloween decorations were almost entirely homemade, reflecting the resourcefulness of families facing tough economic times. With little money to spend on store-bought items, people crafted their own spooky décor using materials they had around the house. Old newspapers were often cut into silhouettes of witches, black cats, and ghosts to hang in windows, while tin cans and scrap metal were transformed into makeshift lanterns or noisemakers. Pumpkins were still a common decoration, but even they were sometimes substituted with other vegetables like gourds, as families made do with what they could grow. Sheets were repurposed to create ghostly figures to hang from trees or porches, and families often used soot, chalk, or flour to add creepy details to outdoor displays. These simple yet imaginative decorations added a festive, eerie atmosphere to homes and neighborhoods, helping to keep the spirit of Halloween alive despite the hardships. The DIY approach to decorating during this time reflected the creativity and determination of people who found ways to celebrate even in the face of adversity.
During the Great Depression, radio serial programs became a vital source of entertainment, offering an escape from the harsh realities of life. As families faced economic hardship, the affordability of radio provided a communal experience, allowing them to gather around the radio for storytelling. By the early 1930s, radio established itself as the primary medium for entertainment, with episodic serials that kept audiences engaged week after week. The popularity of these programs soared, especially those centered around scary themes. Horror-themed radio serials provided thrilling escapism, drawing in listeners eager to confront their fears in a safe environment. Shows like Lights Out and The Shadow captivated audiences with suspenseful plots and dramatic performances, while sound effects and music created immersive experiences. The intimate nature of radio heightened the tension, allowing the imagination to run wild. Many serials drew inspiration from classic horror literature, adapting works by authors like Edgar Allan Poe and H.P. Lovecraft into captivating dramas.
As the 1930s progressed, dedicated horror series like Inner Sanctum Mysteries emerged, delivering spine-chilling tales that kept audiences on the edge of their seats. These programs encouraged listener interaction through contests and fan letters, fostering a sense of belonging among audiences as they shared their reactions. Moreover, horror-themed radio serials often reflected societal fears of the time, such as economic instability and social unrest, allowing listeners to confront their anxieties in a controlled environment. The success of these programs not only shaped the radio landscape but also laid the groundwork for future media, influencing television, film, and other storytelling forms. The legacy of horror-themed radio programs continues to resonate today, reminding us of the enduring allure of fear and the power of storytelling in times of hardship.
Here’s a clip from the series ‘Lights Out’ that originally aired on December 29th, 1937. It’s from episode 7, entitled The Dark.
Mischief Night, typically observed the night before Halloween, took on a different character during the Great Depression, reflecting the frustration and discontent that permeated society. With the economic struggles of the era, youth often engaged in acts of mischief as a form of rebellion against the constraints of their lives. This night was marked by various pranks and vandalism, from soaping windows and tipping over outhouses to more serious offenses like egging houses and destroying property. The mischievous behavior was often fueled by boredom and a lack of structured activities for children and teenagers during a time when resources were limited.
As Mischief Night gained notoriety, many communities responded with increased police presence, hoping to deter potential vandalism and keep the peace. Law enforcement often made arrests to curb the rising tide of youth-related crimes, which sometimes escalated into more serious acts of destruction. Incidents of property damage were common, particularly in impoverished neighborhoods where frustration with the status quo manifested in reckless behavior. Some kids viewed the night as a rite of passage, a way to assert their independence and let off steam in a world that felt increasingly oppressive.
The pranks were often harmless in nature, but the frustration behind them reflected deeper societal issues, with many young people feeling powerless amid the economic turmoil. This blend of youthful exuberance and desperation led to a night that was both thrilling and chaotic. As Halloween approached, Mischief Night became a time of uncertainty for homeowners, as they braced for the potential onslaught of pranks, while also recognizing that behind the mischief was a generation struggling to cope with the harsh realities of life during the Great Depression.
Devil's Night, which emerged in the years following the Great Depression, can be seen as an evolution of Mischief Night, marked by an escalation in the intensity and nature of pranks and vandalism. While Mischief Night involved relatively harmless antics like soaping windows and egging houses, Devil's Night—observed the night before Halloween—began to take on a darker tone. By the 1930s and 1940s, it became associated with more serious acts of vandalism and destruction, often including arson, property damage, and even violent confrontations.
The roots of this shift can be traced back to the pervasive economic hardship of the Depression, which left many young people feeling frustrated, angry, and disenfranchised. As communities continued to grapple with the social fallout of the Great Depression, these feelings intensified, leading to a night that was less about harmless pranks and more about acting out against perceived injustices. In some cities, particularly in industrial areas, reports of mass vandalism and fires became increasingly common, prompting police and local authorities to take a more serious stance against the activities associated with Devil's Night.
In Detroit, the popularity of Devil's Night surged during the late 1970s and early 1980s, as the city faced economic decline, high unemployment rates, and increased crime. The disenfranchisement felt by many residents, particularly among youth, contributed to a culture of rebellion and defiance. The city became notorious for its violent and destructive Devil's Night celebrations, where arson and vandalism reached alarming levels, often resulting in hundreds of fires being reported in a single night. This reputation was further fueled by media coverage, which amplified the events and painted a picture of chaos and lawlessness, cementing Devil's Night's place in the cultural consciousness of Detroit.
In response to the growing concerns, some cities implemented stricter laws and increased police presence on the night leading up to Halloween, hoping to deter the escalating violence. Unfortunately, this only served to heighten tensions between law enforcement and young people, resulting in a cycle of rebellion and crackdowns. The concept of Devil's Night solidified in popular culture as a night of chaos and destruction, reflecting broader societal issues of the time, and laid the groundwork for the more serious Halloween-related mischief that we still hear about today.
As we reflect on Halloween during the Great Depression, it's clear that this era shaped the holiday in profound ways. Families facing economic hardship relied on creativity and resourcefulness, crafting homemade costumes and decorations that mirrored their resilience. Community collaboration emerged as a vital part of Halloween celebrations, with neighborhoods coming together to organize events like basement haunted houses, providing safe spaces for children to enjoy the holiday without the burden of financial strain.
The atmosphere of the time also gave rise to spooky stories and urban legends, such as the Ghosts in the Dust and the Ghost Train, which echoed the fears and uncertainties of a nation grappling with economic despair. Mischief Night evolved into Devil's Night, reflecting a growing sense of frustration among youth, leading to more intense acts of vandalism and chaos. The legacy of these traditions remains evident today, as modern Halloween celebrations still embrace the DIY spirit and sense of community that emerged from those challenging times.
Ultimately, Halloween during the Great Depression served as both a reflection of the era's struggles and a testament to the enduring human spirit. It reminds us that even in the darkest times, people find ways to celebrate, connect, and create lasting memories, weaving a tapestry of traditions that continue to influence how we experience the holiday today.
One of the scariest stories to emerge from Halloween during the Great Depression revolves around the urban legend of the Candy Poisoner. As the economic hardships deepened, a wave of fear swept through communities, fueled by tales of malicious individuals allegedly tampering with Halloween treats. This particular legend gained traction in the 1930s and 1940s, when parents became increasingly concerned about the safety of the candy their children brought home after trick-or-treating.
According to the story, some parents reported finding razor blades, needles, or poison hidden within apples or homemade sweets, leading to a growing paranoia that there were sinister forces at work targeting unsuspecting children. While many of these tales were likely exaggerated or unfounded, the fear they instilled was very real. Communities began to tighten their grip on Halloween festivities, with parents keeping a watchful eye on their children's candy and urging them to avoid accepting treats from strangers.
The legend of the Candy Poisoner captured the anxieties of a generation grappling with economic despair, distrust, and the loss of innocence. It underscored the societal changes of the time, as the carefree spirit of Halloween clashed with the grim realities of the Depression. This chilling tale not only exemplified the darker side of Halloween during this era but also laid the groundwork for ongoing fears surrounding trick-or-treating that continue to echo through Halloween folklore today.
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